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So I notice that everyone's favorite wannabe rapist and misogynist, PRED, has returned as a subject of conversation on GAFF. I don't dare go through the links, since the machine I'm on is technically monitored by the FBI, but I'm sort of curious whether he's done anything new, or whether this is just people reacting to his presence for the first time. Am I evil for hoping that he'll notice that we're taunting him and show up in person to defend himself and his worldview? It would amuse me to no end to watch him get stomped.
I've learned that perturbative Quantum Field Theory doesn't work on Higgs boson/top interactions. That puts a hole in my skills. What am I supposed to use if I don't use perturbative QFT? Life is hard...
I'm also thinking of writing up something about the latest failures of the UN peacekeepers in the Ivory Coast. I don't expect that it will get a lot of attention, but it will poke fun at the French, so at least Avari will show up for it.
Back to some more background material...
I've learned that perturbative Quantum Field Theory doesn't work on Higgs boson/top interactions. That puts a hole in my skills. What am I supposed to use if I don't use perturbative QFT? Life is hard...
I'm also thinking of writing up something about the latest failures of the UN peacekeepers in the Ivory Coast. I don't expect that it will get a lot of attention, but it will poke fun at the French, so at least Avari will show up for it.
Back to some more background material...
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Date: 2005-07-28 03:09 pm (UTC)Hold on, Dan--why *doesn't* Quantum Field Theory work on Higgs reactions? It can't be an experimental result, certainly--is it predicted in theory somewhere? Come to think of it, what sort of interaction is the Higgs/top, anyway? Could you enlighten a sadly ignorant undergraduate?
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Date: 2005-07-29 02:01 am (UTC)I don't know how much you know, so I'll give you my best explanation-and probably the low-gear physics explanation. I learned Quantum Field Theory mostly via the perturbation theory approach. This means that if you want to calculate the cross-section, you propose a Lagrangian and write down a whole bunch of Feynman diagrams. The easiest one to do is two electrons scattering off of each other; in Field Theory we interpret this as being through the interchange of a virtual photon.
Note that the diagram has two verticies, one at the generation, and one at the absorption, of the virtual photon. In order to calculate the cross-section, we measure the chance of interacting through a complicated process, basically we break things into three different pieces, multiply their "probabilities" together, and integrate this over all particle states. The "probability" we use for a cross-section is the coupling term-basically how strong the particles interact with each other. For electrons you can basically use the electromagnetic field terms derived in Classical E&M. Doing this we can calculate the cross-section for this one interaction.
In any real interaction there are about a dozen different paths that you can take. The electron example has several, some including positrons:
Once you've summed up all the amplitudes of each diagram (basically of each possible way the particles can scatter), then you've successfully completed the first assignment in a QED class, calculating the scattering cross-section of the Coulumb interaction.
But now you can ask another question. Since there is only one electroweak force, what's to prevent the electrons from exchanging a Z0 boson instead of another virtual photon? After all, the electron does couple to the Z through the Weak force. Well, it does. But you'll find that the coupling constant is small enough that it takes precision machinery to locate it. Basically, when you've got two electrons scattering off of each other, the Z0 contribution is small enough that you can ignore it.
But that raises another problem. What about complicated bastards like this one:
Well, it gets worse. That object in the middle is a loop. This may not seem like a bad thing, but there's nothing in the physics that prevents there from being three or ten or an infinite amount of loops in that diagram. A pair of virtual quarks can turn into a pair of virtual quarks can turn into a pair of virtual quarks as long as you want. This is a headache. We hates it.
What saves us is that every time we add another loop, we add another vertex. And every time we add another vertex, our cross-section contribution from this diagram gains another factor of g (the coupling constant). So when we calculate the contribution of a Feynman diagram to the total cross-section (in the above, the total probability of e- qbar -> e+ q), the terms from diagrams or sequences with >1 loop become negligible.
Of course, this utterly fails in the case of top/Higgs, because there g is of order 1. So you quickly find that the diagrams with ten or more loops make more of a contribution than the diagrams that are immediate. If you sum them up, you quickly realize that the cross-section goes to infinity. It's just a case where perturbation theory doesn't work.
There's an entire field of non-perturbative QFT out there. QCD depends on it if I remember correctly. But I don't know it; so when people talk about top/Higgs interaction I get totally lost.
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Date: 2005-07-29 02:01 am (UTC)The Higgs field was designed to couple to particles simply dependent upon their mass. Although I don't know the original intent, the theory works for fermions as well as bosons: objects couple along the order of mparticle2 / mHiggs2. This would normally not be impressive, but the Top is so damn massive that its mass is comparable to that of the Higgs. I don't think anybody knows why it is, but apparently it couples strongly enough that they could make temporary bound states.
No. I don't understand what that means for our detector either. But I hope I answered some of your questions.
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Date: 2005-07-29 04:06 am (UTC)Thank you, Dan.
Date: 2005-07-30 01:36 am (UTC)Let's see how much of it I can cram into my brain before October...
Re: Thank you, Dan.
Date: 2005-07-30 01:48 am (UTC)I'm not sure how much I've written is correct from a theoretical point of view. I don't know any theorists. We Experimentalists live a very sheltered existence.
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Date: 2005-07-28 04:34 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-07-29 02:16 am (UTC)Back when people were still mapping out particles, they developed a theory called Electroweak theory. You may have heard of the four fundamental forces in science class at some point:
Gravity
Electromagnetic
Weak
Strong
Electroweak theory proved that the Electromagnetic and Weak forces were essentially the same thing. Now if you're a particle physicist you think in terms of particles, so a force acting between objects is accomplished by a particle moving between them. We think that there are untold trillions of gravitons moving between you and the Earth right this moment keeping you attached to the floor. When two electrons get too close they exchange this tiny photon; this is sort of how they know the other particle is there and they know to scatter off. You can think of this as sort of what happens if you have a lot of static electricity and you go to touch a metal doorknob. As soon as you get close enough, a bunch of particles jump from your finger to the doorknob, creating a shock for you (and for the door if it had nerves).
This is a bad analogy, but I don't have a better one.
The EM and Weak forces are carried by four different bosons (particles of a type). They're really different; the EM is carried by the photon, which is the same thing as light. The Weak is carried by a bunch of bosons, the W and the Z. The photon has no mass and it always moves at the speed of light. The W and the Z are massive as hell.
To relate them, and to deal with a hell of a lot of other problems, the theorists who did this created a new particle, the Higgs particle. This allowed them to fix some of their problems-and it answered a great question so far left open to physics. Electrons interact with other electrons through an electric field; how strongly an electron interacts with something tells you how much charge that object has. But the strength with which you interact with the Higgs boson tells you how much mass you have, how much stuff you're made out of. This is the key for answering the question "what are we made of?" We're made of matter, matter has mass, and mass means that it interacts with the Higgs boson.
We're finally on the verge of seeing the Higgs boson too. Predictions, mostly valid predictions as well, have given us the mass range and interaction potential of the Higgs. In order to see it and prove that it's there (as well as find a few other things) they are currently in the midst of constructing the world's most powerful particle accelerator, the Large Hadron Collider at CERN.
The thing about the Higgs/Top interaction is that the top quark is massive. Consider this, a proton is a fairly large particle-it's that big heavy thing that anchors the nucleus of an atom. It has three quarks inside of it, two up quarks and a down quark. But a single top quark is 200 times as massive as the entire proton. It's so massive that it interacts with the Higgs on a tremendous scale, making all sorts of funny physics as they do things that good-natured electrons and protons never get around to.
There are several methods for calculating the results of particle interactions, but the only one I know doesn't work for that particular madness. I tried to explain the particulars above. God knows if it worked.
I hope that answered something.
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Date: 2005-07-29 02:20 am (UTC)I'd love this stuff if it didn't mess with my head so much.
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Date: 2005-07-29 02:55 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-07-29 02:58 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-07-29 03:22 am (UTC)It doesn't sound that bad in words, but once you get to a certain level in Physics, the contradiction can make your brain hurt.
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Date: 2005-07-28 08:08 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-07-29 02:17 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-07-28 10:47 pm (UTC)Physics is so much fun sometimes.
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Date: 2005-07-29 02:02 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-08-05 04:34 pm (UTC)Thanks!
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Date: 2005-07-30 05:55 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-07-30 09:49 pm (UTC)