I was speaking of large research based (and those small, tech heavy, researched based ones) that make a lot of money off of their research grants. I've always been told that student tuition did not cover enough of the costs (although I'll willingly grant that the Humanities makes a lot of money in that quarter), and that part of the reason that we're pushed to publish is that the university needs the grant money.
We're told that the half of the grant money we get goes to the University for "keeping the lights on". For the HEP three professor group, I doubt that the costs for keeping our lights on really adds up to the $750,000+ that the University gets out of us.
Federal funding alone accounts for 33% of UCSD's $1.9 billion revenues. The research budget that they claim is $728.3 million overall. Now, I'm having a hard time figuring out how they calculate it, but they do claim average tuition to be 6,700 for an undergraduate. Assuming all of that goes to the Humanities department (instead of into student housing or other places), and given 20,339 undergraduates, we end up with $136 million. So, if that research budget is before UCSD takes its half, the research funds come up to $364 million in profit for UCSD (I'm not sure if I believe this, the private "grants" that come out of deals with engineering companies in the area may not be included in this). The comparison is close, but given the average size of a science or engineering grant versus an English or History grant, and factor in profits from patents, and you tend to get most of your funding from research, and the majority of this ends up as science funding.
(Actually, this raises a lot of questions, such as how UCSD can claim 1.9 billion as revenue. Is that including the total of the research grants? And does that mean that we get something on the order of a billion dollars from gifts and our endowment? Inquiring minds want to know)
The amount of extra money generated by the humanities does not seem to account for the fact that they are approximately equal with the sciences on the new building schedule. It would seem that the university is splitting the research proceeds, and I don't think they give it back entirely by who earns the most (although both Medicine and Engineering are a bit over-represented of late).
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Date: 2006-01-19 01:03 am (UTC)We're told that the half of the grant money we get goes to the University for "keeping the lights on". For the HEP three professor group, I doubt that the costs for keeping our lights on really adds up to the $750,000+ that the University gets out of us.
Federal funding alone accounts for 33% of UCSD's $1.9 billion revenues. The research budget that they claim is $728.3 million overall. Now, I'm having a hard time figuring out how they calculate it, but they do claim average tuition to be 6,700 for an undergraduate. Assuming all of that goes to the Humanities department (instead of into student housing or other places), and given 20,339 undergraduates, we end up with $136 million. So, if that research budget is before UCSD takes its half, the research funds come up to $364 million in profit for UCSD (I'm not sure if I believe this, the private "grants" that come out of deals with engineering companies in the area may not be included in this). The comparison is close, but given the average size of a science or engineering grant versus an English or History grant, and factor in profits from patents, and you tend to get most of your funding from research, and the majority of this ends up as science funding.
(Actually, this raises a lot of questions, such as how UCSD can claim 1.9 billion as revenue. Is that including the total of the research grants? And does that mean that we get something on the order of a billion dollars from gifts and our endowment? Inquiring minds want to know)
The amount of extra money generated by the humanities does not seem to account for the fact that they are approximately equal with the sciences on the new building schedule. It would seem that the university is splitting the research proceeds, and I don't think they give it back entirely by who earns the most (although both Medicine and Engineering are a bit over-represented of late).